Talmud sur Samuel 1 2:24
אַ֖ל בָּנָ֑י כִּ֠י לֽוֹא־טוֹבָ֤ה הַשְּׁמֻעָה֙ אֲשֶׁ֣ר אָנֹכִ֣י שֹׁמֵ֔עַ מַעֲבִרִ֖ים עַם־יְהוָֽה׃
Cessez donc, mes enfants; car il n’est pas beau, le bruit que j’entends courir sur vous parmi le peuple du Seigneur.
Jerusalem Talmud Horayot
HALAKHAH: “An Anointed Priest who sinned,” etc. Halakhah 2:“An Anointed Priest who was removed from his anointed status,” etc. 3A slightly enlarged version of a paragraph in Sanhedrin 2:1, Notes 14 ff. The paragraph is missing in B, as in all similar cases it was added by later editors of the Babli from the Yerushalmi. Only the few added verses are indicated here. The additions are printed in a different typeface. In a few places, the text here is slightly shortened. Rebbi Eleazar said, if a High Priest sinned, one whips him but does not remove him from his elevated status. Rebbi Mana said, it is written: For the crown of his God’s ointment is on him, I am the Eternal; if one could compare it, just as I am in My Greatness, so Aaron is in his greatness. Rebbi Abun said, it is written4Lev. 21:8.: Holy shall he be for you; if one could compare it, I am in My Sanctity, so Aaron is in his sanctity. Rebbi Ḥanina the scribe, Rebbi Aḥa in the name of Rebbi Simeon ben Laqish: if an Anointed Priest sinned, one whips him in a court of three [judges]. If you would say in a court of 23, his elevation would be his degradation. Rebbi Simeon ben Laqish said, if a patriarch sinned, one whips him in a court of three [judges]. Does one return him? Rebbi Ḥaggai said, better if one did return him, he would kill them. Rebbi Jehudah the Prince heard this and became angry. He sent Goths to catch Rebbi Simeon ben Laqish. He fled to Magdala, some say to Kefar Ḥiţţim. Rebbi Joḥanan went to the assembly hall; Rebbi Jehudah the Prince also went to the assembly hall. He said to him, why is the master not telling us words of instruction? He started clapping with one hand. He asked, does one clap with one? He answered him, no, but without ben Laqish there is nothing. He said, no. He told him, I shall free him. He said to him, in Magdala. He told him, I and you will go out to meet him. Rebbi Joḥanan sent to Rebbi Simeon ben Laqish, prepare for yourself some words of instruction since the Patriarch will go out to meet you. He went out to meet them and said, your example is similar to that of your Creator. For when the Merciful went to liberate Israel from Egypt, He sent neither messenger nor angel but He went Himself, as is written: I shall pass through the Land of Egypt in that night, not only He but all His Court. It is not written in this context “when Power went” but when Powers went52S. 7:23.. They asked him, why did you say these things? He told them, what are you thinking? That for fear of you I would refrain from the teachings of the Merciful? As Rebbi Samuel ben Rav Isaac said, No my sons, because the reputation is not good, etc., you remove the Eternal’s people61S. 2:24. This quote is the gist of the entire sermon, missing in Sanhedrin., one removes him.
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Jerusalem Talmud Sanhedrin
14There exists a copy of this paragraph in Horaiot 3:2 (ה). It is missing in the Yerushalmi reproduced in the editio princeps of the Babli. A different version is in Midrash Samuel 7(5). Rebbi Eleazar said, if a High Priest sinned, one whips him but does not remove him from his elevated status13This is unknown to the Babli.. Rebbi Mana said, it is written5Lev. 21:12.: For the crown of his God’s ointment is on him, I am the Eternal; if one could compare it, just as I am in My Sanctity, so Aaron is in his sanctity15The two other sources read: I in My Greatness, also Aaron in his greatness. R. Abun said (Lev. 21:8), holy he shall be to you, if one could compare it, as I Am in My Holiness, so Aaron is in his holiness.. Rebbi Ḥanina the scribe, Rebbi Aḥa in the name of Rebbi Simeon ben Laqish: if a High Priest sinned, one whips him16In the two other sources: by a court of three judges. The sequel requires this text.. If you would say by 23, his elevation would be his degradation17Since so many people would sit in judgment over him.. And Rebbi Simeon ben Laqish said, if a patriarch sinned, one whips him by a court of three [judges]. Does one return him? Rebbi Haggai said, by Moses, if one would return him, he would kill them. Rebbi Jehudah the Prince18R. Jehudah II. heard this and became angry. He sent Goths19Following the reading of the other two sources. Krauss conjectures that the inserted נ indicates nasal pronunciation, but by the evidence of the other two sources גנתון instead of גותיין seems to be a scribal error. [Instead of Goths they might have been Gaetuli, a people from Northwestern Africa (E. G.).] to catch Rebbi Simeon ben Laqish. They beat him. He fled to Magdala, some say to Kefar Ḥiṭṭim20Magdala is on Lake Genezareth, Kefar Hittim in the hills overlooking Tiberias.. The next day, Rebbi Joḥanan went to the assembly hall, when Rebbi Jehudah the Prince also went to the assembly hall. He21R. Jehudah the Prince. said to him, why is the master not22Translated following G. telling us words of instruction? He23R. Johanan. started clapping with one hand. He21R. Jehudah the Prince. asked, does one clap with one? He23R. Johanan. answered him, no, but without ben Laqish there is nothing24Following the text of the other two sources. The text of the Leiden ms. is unintelligible.. He21R. Jehudah the Prince. told him, I shall free him. He23R. Johanan. said to him, in Magdala. He21R. Jehudah the Prince. told him, tomorrow I and you will go out to meet him. Rebbi Joḥanan sent to Rebbi Simeon ben Laqish, prepare25Translated following G. The text of the other two sources, “get rich”, does not make much sense. for yourself some words of instruction since the Patriarch will go out to meet you. He went out to meet them and said, your example is similar to that of your Creator. For when the Merciful went to liberate Israel [from Egypt]26Added from the other two sources., He sent neither messenger nor angel but He went Himself, as is written: I shall pass through the Land of Egypt27Ex. 12:12., He and all His Court28Translated following Eliahu Fulda and H. L. Fleischer in Levy’s Dictionary. A similar explanation of the verse is found in the Passover Haggadah (Mekhilta dR.Ismael, ed. Horovitz-Rabin, p. 23; cf. H. Guggenheimer, The Scholar’s Haggadah pp. 298–299.)
Here ends the Geniza fragment. The text in Horaiot has additions both at this point and at the end of the paragraph which, while relevant, in the absence of a confirming Genizah text cannot be added here.. He asked him, why did you say these things29About whipping the Patriarch.? He told him, what are you thinking? That for fear of you I would refrain from the teachings of the Merciful? As Rebbi Samuel ben Rav Isaac said, No my sons, because the reputation is not good301S. 2:24. The explanation of the verse is missing; it is given in Horaiot. The verse about the misdeeds of Eli’s sons ends, מַעֲבִיריִם עַם יי [the information]spread about by the Eternal’s people, which he interprets as being removed by the Eternal’s people, implying that the High Priest has to be removed if he sins..
Here ends the Geniza fragment. The text in Horaiot has additions both at this point and at the end of the paragraph which, while relevant, in the absence of a confirming Genizah text cannot be added here.. He asked him, why did you say these things29About whipping the Patriarch.? He told him, what are you thinking? That for fear of you I would refrain from the teachings of the Merciful? As Rebbi Samuel ben Rav Isaac said, No my sons, because the reputation is not good301S. 2:24. The explanation of the verse is missing; it is given in Horaiot. The verse about the misdeeds of Eli’s sons ends, מַעֲבִיריִם עַם יי [the information]spread about by the Eternal’s people, which he interprets as being removed by the Eternal’s people, implying that the High Priest has to be removed if he sins..
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